Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host Joe Pug. Each episode here,

we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their

process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So, whether you're a grizzled veteran

insisting that you'll only play

pre-war Martin guitars

or else a scrappy upstart

insisting that you'll only play

pre-2010 M-Rio MIDI controllers

this is your show

because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most

an iron-clad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey everybody, it's the last Friday of January, 2023, and I thank you for joining us.

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