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HVAC School - For Techs, By Techs

Training Refrigeration: Building Technicians Who Think, Not Just Fix - Short #283

HVAC School - For Techs, By Techs

Bryan Orr

Careers, Business, Self-improvement, Education

4.91K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2026

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Training the refrigeration technician is about building technicians who think, not just fix. In this engaging conversation from the 7th Annual HVAC/R Training Symposium, host Trevor Matthews sits down with Billy Carlson to explore what it really takes to develop technicians who think critically and troubleshoot effectively.

Billy shares his journey in the HVAC/R industry, from residential air conditioning to commercial refrigeration, and ultimately specializing in supermarket rack systems and CO2 refrigeration. With only five years in the grocery sector, his company now dedicates 70-80% of its work to refrigeration, with 40% focused on rack systems. This rapid transition offers valuable insights for contractors looking to expand into commercial refrigeration.

Key Topics Covered:

  • Building Technicians, Not Just Fixers - Why understanding component flow, P&IDs, and electrical diagrams is crucial for developing thinking technicians rather than parts changers
  • CO2 Refrigeration Training - Billy's honest account of learning CO2 systems, including challenges with dry ice formation, charging procedures, and system tuning
  • Supermarket Rack Work - The unique pressures and rewards of maintaining systems that hold entire stores, including HFC and CO2 racks with multiple compressors
  • Effective Training Methods - Billy's approach to teaching his five-person team, from component identification to reading refrigeration schedules and understanding sequence of operations
  • Fine-Tuning Systems - Insights on slowing down ramp rates, adjusting flash tank pressure, and the importance of proper startup commissioning time
  • Controls & Communications - Why modern refrigeration technicians need to understand networking, gateways, and digital controls alongside traditional refrigeration knowledge

Billy emphasizes that patience and willingness to ask for help are essential traits for anyone entering supermarket refrigeration. He shares practical tips on charging CO2 systems, avoiding dry ice in lines, working with VFDs, and reading trend graphs to optimize system performance.

Whether you're a residential tech considering commercial refrigeration, a trainer developing curriculum, or a service manager building a team, this conversation offers real-world wisdom on creating technicians who understand the "why" behind every repair.

 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, hey, this is the HVAC school podcast, or in this case, it's more like the

0:08.5

Refrigeration Mentor podcast took over because it is my friend Trevor Matthews, also known as

0:13.6

Refrigeration Mentor online and at refrigerationmentor.com, and he is speaking with Billy Carlson.

0:20.4

So Billy Carlson is a refrigeration contractor,

0:24.0

HVAC contractor down in Savannah, Georgia, one of my favorite parts of the country. And he started

0:29.1

in residential and moved into commercial and then grocery refrigeration, including CO2 rack systems,

0:34.5

similar to what we've done a lot of here at Calos. So it's a great conversation

0:38.7

between Trevor from Refrigeration Mentor and Billy Carlson. And we're going to get right to it

0:44.0

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0:50.0

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0:56.6

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1:02.7

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1:38.3

It makes it easy to align the CFM ventilation rates with the dehumidifier's capacity.

1:44.3

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1:49.4

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