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Hi, this is Hope. This is Farine. Hi, this is Katie from Washington, D.C.

and you're listening to Nomead Athlete Radio.

Now you'll be pleased to hear that I want to kick this episode off with a downward facing Doug.

We're bringing it back. I could not eat more please.

For those who maybe haven't been loyal listeners for the last,

I don't know, we're less down if this Doug goes probably five years ago.

Five years ago. We started as a way for me to just talk about something that I looked down on

or frustrated about. It just basically turned into me ranting about businesses and cable

guys. Yeah, it turned into you like, it was like your threat for if you were getting bad

service by your internet company, you would tell them, well I'm going to do this,

I'm going to call you out on our podcast and then you would

You're very effective. Definitely worked every time.

This is going to be a little bit of this, but a little bit of that, but mostly a bigger

kind of philosophical question. Okay. All right, so let me do a little step here. I went down

or I did my first solo road trip in a really, really long time, a couple of weeks ago,

went up to my mom's in Virginia, which is maybe five, five and a half hours, you know,

not a huge road trip or anything like that, but to go without the family, without the wife,

it was, I don't know, it's been a really long time since I've done that. And so since I've kind of,

since we don't, we haven't jumped on the fast food, the vegan fast food train very much,

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