The idea of having, you know, 50 vehicles all around a very large tent, and that's where the staff does their planning, that will get you killed very rapidly.

The fundamentals of war fighting, troop leading procedures, military decision-making process, those are still powerful

in the way we solve problems. How we do them has to change. The role of deception, I think,

is skyrocketing. Hey, welcome back to the MWI podcast. Brought to you with the generous support of the West Point Class of 1974.

I'm John Amble, and on this episode, I'm joined by Colonel Ethan Diven.

He is the provost of Army University and deputy commandant at the Army's Commanding General Staff

College.

That means he has a unique perspective on the way the Army educates its leaders.

But before taking his current position, he was the commander of the operations group at the National Training Center,

which means he has also seen the way the army trains those same leaders along with the units

and soldiers they lead. Both training and education have always been key ways the army prepares

for war.

But as new battlefield challenges arise and new technologies emerge, the character of warfare

is changing, and it's happening faster than ever. Keeping up with those changes and keeping

ahead of adversaries we might face means that we have to get training and education right.

In this episode, we examine how and why the Army is adapting

its training and education, and we explore what's left to do to meet the challenges ahead.

It's not an easy task, but as you'll hear in the conversation, the stakes are incredibly high.

Before we get to that conversation, as always, a couple quick notes. First, a very special

thank you to the West Point class of 1974

for their generous support to MWI. And second, as always, what you hear in this episode are

the views of the participants and don't represent those of West Point, the army, or any other

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