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1001 Heroes, Legends, Histories & Mysteries Podcast

TRAIN SONGS AND PAIN SONGS: RIP DON SCHLITZ

1001 Heroes, Legends, Histories & Mysteries Podcast

Jon Hagadorn

History, Society & Culture

4.51.7K Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2026

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

🎙️ PODCAST SUMMARY — "Train Songs and Pain Songs"

In this nostalgic, first‑person reflection, Jon looks back on 50 years of loving country music and the two currents that have always run deepest for him — the train songs and the pain songs. Borrowing Mickey Newbury's unforgettable line from "Luckenbach, Texas," Jon explores the roots of the great American train song tradition, from "Wabash Cannonball" to "City of New Orleans," and the way those rolling rhythms shaped the sound of a nation.

From there, he turns to the heartbreak side of country music — the "pain songs" — with a tribute to Hank Williams, whose timeless classic "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry" still stands as one of the most haunting expressions of loneliness ever recorded.

The episode then shifts to honor the recent passing of legendary songwriter Don Schlitz, whose humble beginnings in Nashville led to some of the most enduring songs in country history. Jon revisits the unlikely journey of "The Gambler," the hit everyone turned down until Kenny Rogers turned it into a cultural landmark, and highlights several of Schlitz's other masterpieces — from "Forever and Ever, Amen" to "When You Say Nothing at All." Along the way, listeners will hear stories, insights, and the lasting impact Schlitz had on the artists he helped launch.

It's a heartfelt remembrance of the songs that shaped a lifetime — and a final thank‑you to Don Schlitz for the stories, the wisdom, and the music that will live on forever.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back, everyone to one thousand one heroes, legends, histories, and mysteries

0:18.3

podcast. This is your host, John Haggardorn. I've been a fan of

0:23.3

country music for going on 50 years now, and if you ask me to boil down what part of country music

0:28.3

hits me hardest, what part has stayed with me through all the changes, all the trends, all the

0:33.8

neon, and all the Nashville polish. I'd have to borrow a line from the great Mickey Newberry.

0:39.7

Back in 1977, in that unforgettable opening to Lukenbach, Texas,

0:44.6

he summed it up better than anyone ever has.

0:47.1

Let's go back to the basics of love.

0:49.9

Back to the train songs and the pain songs.

0:53.8

And that's it. That's the heart of it for me. Train and the pain songs. And that's it.

0:54.9

That's the heart of it for me.

0:56.7

Train songs and pain songs.

0:59.5

Those two currents run through the entire river of country music.

1:03.1

One carrying the rhythm of steel wheels and open horizons.

1:06.6

The other carrying the ache of the human heart.

1:09.2

And for half a century, those two streams have been the soundtrack of my life.

1:14.8

There's something about a train song that feels older than music itself,

1:19.1

older than Nashville, older than the Grand Old Opry, older even than the idea of country music.

1:25.6

Trains were freedom.

1:27.2

Trains were escape. Trains were escape.

1:29.0

Trains were the promise of something better just over the next bridge.

1:32.8

I grew up on songs like Wabash Cannonball,

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