I had no idea that there was too size to this man. God, we had no idea what it was going to be like, but it was murder.

He sacrificed not only my family, but my wife's family. He would be in the blink, and when I just send them to death.

Children, babies, mothers, grandmother, it was a deliberate massacre.

How does a single human being convince thousands to kill for them and millions to turn a blind eye?

Real dictators is the new podcast series presented by me, Paul McGann, that explores the hidden lives of tyrants such as Adolf Hitler, Chairman Mao and Kim Jong-il.

You'll be right there in their meeting rooms and private quarters on the battlefields and in their bonkers, a close and personal with some of history's most evil leaders watching on as they make the decisions that shape the world as we know it.

There's Kim Jong-il, a man consumed by a love-hate relationship at the worst.

Because he never really left North Korea, he took what he saw in Hollywood films to beat realism.

North Korea became very good at selling drugs and making and selling counterfeit $100 bills, trafficking, people in ivory and later nuclear secrets and weapons,

anything that a criminal empire would do, and it was all backed up with the state's might.

Joseph Stalin, the man who turned Russia into a superpower and set the stage with a cold war.

Stalin found Russia with the wooden plow and he left it with atomic weapons.

He would work late into the night developing slogans.

If Stalin had been born in the United States, he would have been a first-class advertising executive.

He really understood how to get people to buy what he's selling.

Mao Zedong, the peasant son who transformed China.

Communism has malinterpreted it, required toughness, required extremism because he's extreme conditions.

Famously he said all power grows out of the barrel of a gun.

When he toured the villages and witnessed the violence and the atrocities firsthand, as he said himself, he changed.

He felt a kind of ecstasy as he had never experienced it before.

Then there's General Togel, the Japanese Prime Minister, who initiated a total war with America.

He did not regret the war, he'd not regret Pearl Harbor, and he believed that he'd act in honorably.

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