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Real Dictators

Kim Jong-il Part 1: Birth of North Korea

Real Dictators

NOISER

History, Fiction, Drama

4.78.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 June 2020

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Kim Jong-il built a rogue state with nuclear missiles trained on its enemies – all while living a life of the utmost luxury. In the first episode of Real Dictators, we piece together the early life of this tyrant and that of the country he came to rule. Kim Jong-il is born during World War Two. His father – Kim Il-sung – fights the Japanese and helps found the state of North Korea. After the War, son and nation grow up together, as Kim Jong-il begins his own rise to power. Historians trace Kim’s early years, while defectors from North Korea reflect on the propaganda they grew up with. For ad-free listening, exclusive content and early access to new episodes, join Noiser+. Now available for Apple and Android users. Click the Noiser+ banner on Apple or go to noiser.com/subscriptions to get started with a 7-day free trial. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The North Koreans

0:05.0

North Koreans didn't know that man had landed on the Moon

0:09.0

because the men landed on the Moon were Americans, so they were they weren't told.

0:13.0

The level of the compartmentalization of information is just phenomenal.

0:17.0

The things that they don't know that we take for granted.

0:20.0

If they knew freedom, they would want it.

0:25.0

North Korea could have become anything.

0:28.0

But helmed by Kim Jong-il, it would turn towards paranoia, secrecy, and terror.

0:35.0

Because he never really left North Korea, he took what he saw in Hollywood films to beat realism.

0:40.0

North Korea became very good at selling drugs and making and selling counterfeit $100 bills, trafficking.

0:46.0

People in ivory and later nuclear secrets and weapons, anything that a criminal empire would do.

0:52.0

And it was all backed up with the state's might.

0:55.0

My name is Paul McGinn, and welcome to Real Dictators,

0:59.0

the series that explores the hidden lives of tyrants such as Adolf Hitler, Chairman Mao, and Joseph Stalin.

1:06.0

You'll be right there in their meeting rooms and private quarters, on the battlefields and in their bunkers,

1:12.0

up close and personal with some of history's most evil leaders.

1:16.0

We'll take you behind the curtain, beyond the propaganda and the myth making,

1:21.0

to hear the real stories of their totalitarian regimes.

1:25.0

In this episode, we trace the story of the man who built a volatile rogue state

1:30.0

with nuclear missiles trained on its enemies, all while living a life of the utmost luxury.

1:36.0

He was having lobster flown in from wherever he was dining on French wine.

1:42.0

He was Hennessy's largest single paying customer.

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