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TRAGEDY UNDER XI: 4/4: Beijing remain quiet on the Prigozhin episode: 4/4: Today Hong Kong, Tomorrow the World: What China's Crackdown Reveals About Its Plans to End Freedom Everywhere by Mark L. Clifford

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 15 January 2024

⏱️ 7 minutes

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TRAGEDY UNDER XI: 4/4: Beijing remain quiet on the Prigozhin episode: 4/4: Today Hong Kong, Tomorrow the World: What China's Crackdown Reveals About Its Plans to End Freedom Everywhere by Mark L. Clifford

https://www.amazon.com/Today-Hong-Kong-Tomorrow-World/dp/1250279178

Today Hong Kong, Tomorrow the World tells the complete story of how a city once famed for protests so peaceful that toddlers joined grandparents in millions-strong rallies became a place where police have fired more than 10,000 rounds of tear gas, rubber bullets and even live ammunition at their neighbors, while pro-government hooligans attack demonstrators in the streets. A Hong Kong resident from 1992 to 2021, author Mark L. Clifford has witnessed this transformation firsthand. As a celebrated publisher and journalist, he has unrivaled access to the full range of the city’s society, from student protestors and political prisoners to aristocrats and senior government officials. A powerful and dramatic mix of history and on-the-ground reporting, this book is the definitive account of one of the most important geopolitical standoffs of our time.

1906 HONG KONG

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0:00.0

I'm John Batcher with Mark Clifford, the author of Today Hong Kong, tomorrow the world,

0:10.0

a very detailed telling of why Hong Kong struggled all these decades to be unique, to be a success.

0:17.0

A postmodern city, it called itself.

0:20.0

With culture, with depth, with education,

0:22.8

lots of education.

0:24.1

Mark makes the point, it's really nerdy,

0:26.0

and it's really geeky.

0:26.9

They study everything, including how to fire,

0:29.1

throw a Molotov cocktail.

0:31.4

We come to 2019, five demands. What are they, Mark? I have

0:35.1

extradition. They want the extradition bill stopped. You can't kidnap us. They

0:39.4

want police brutality punished. They want amnesty for those who have been arrested, but chiefly they

0:45.1

want full universal suffrage.

0:47.3

Did they know that was provocative?

0:49.1

Did they know that the fire would come?

0:51.8

They knew it was provocative.

0:52.9

I don't think anyone imagine how quickly and how severely

0:57.3

the Chinese would crack down on the demands.

1:00.6

But by 2019, things had reached a boiling point and it had been 22 years since

1:06.2

Hong Kong had been given back to the mainland. That's 22 years out of 50 years

1:10.9

that Hong Kong was promised this high degree of autonomy, promised more freedom

1:14.8

than ever, promised Hong Kong people ruling Hong Kong, promised that they'd be able to

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