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From KCRW and KCRW.com, I'm Kim Masters, and this is The Business.

We're just making a movie. We're not making, it's not life and death. It's not worth life and death.

In the wake of tragedy that took the life of a young assistant camera woman, veteran producer Marty Katz

talks about staying safe on sets and cinematographer Haskell Wexler on his long quest to improve safety.

But first on the Hollywood news banter, why some Middle Eastern countries say they'll ban Darren Aronofsky's Noah.

Stick around. It's the business from KCRW.

I'm joined by my banter buddy, John Horn of the Los Angeles Times.

Hello, John.

Hello, Kim.

So, John, it appears if there are deep waters for the movie business, it would be the waters of religion.

And now when it works, it works.

We saw that with Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ.

And when it doesn't work, it's a disaster.

We saw that when Martin Scorsese made the last

temptation of Christ, and now we have Paramount with Darren Aronofsky's Noah, and already taking a lot of

fire from various religious groups. Yeah, there's basically three different things that are going on.

One is the religious right is upset that it is not

kind of truthful to the Bible, although, you know, that's a much longer debate about what biblical

truth is. And then there's the backlash now from the Middle East, which I suspect was not the

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