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Every year we bake in failure. Look, I'm going to continue to have failure.

I just hope that I have a little bit more success.

And if that's the case, then this works.

Fox Entertainment Chairman Kevin Riley says he's done with the madness of TV's pilot season.

Fox will order more shows directly to series and will schedule new programs all year round.

Plus, California's struggling visual effects artists continue to fight for survival.

But first on the Hollywood news banter, a big win for an actress who unwittingly starred

in the infamous film, Innocence of Muslims.

Stick around, it's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my fellow banterer, John Horn of Los Angeles Times. Hello, John. Hello, Kim. So, John, we have a lot of legal stuff to talk about. Perhaps one of the most astounding in terms of improbability cases involves the notorious film Innocence of Muslims, which, as you undoubtedly recall, was made under false pretenses by this filmmaker who lured actors into appearing in this film without telling them that it was going to be an anti-Islamic screed, a screed that set off rioting around the world, basically, from people who were offended by its content, very dire consequences.

One of the actresses who appeared in this film, somebody that was an aspiring actress, Cindy Lee Garcia, once she found out what she was in, sued, initially lost, but now the

Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has reversed and a gigantic order against Google and YouTube

with thundering implications.

Absolutely.

Now, Cindy Lee Garcia sued Google right after the clips of the film became public, basically

ordering or asking Google to take down

the material. Google refused, and the trial court said Google was right to refuse. They appealed

to the Ninth Circuit, and Judge Alex Kaczynski, who is a famous kind of renegade intellectually

and politically on the court, sided with Cindy Lee Garcia and basically said, and this is where it's a kind of renegade intellectually and politically on the court, sided with Cindy Lee Garcia and

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