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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

Tragedy in Afghanistan

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.76.6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2021

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Bloomberg Opinion columnist Eli Lake joins Jonah for a thorough discussion of the tragic situation in Afghanistan. Is President Biden’s leadership to blame for the catastrophe? Did Biden ignore warnings that withdrawal would result in a Taliban takeover? And how did the Afghanistan war go from being celebrated on Saturday Night Live to such a tragic conclusion? Things aren’t all doom and gloom, however, as Eli is sure to end on a note of optimism. The American experiment has endured challenges on the global stage in the past, but rejuvenation has also been accomplished. Besides, America’s adversaries have plenty of their own problems to contend with. Show Notes: -Eli’s page at Bloomberg Opinion -Eli’s review of Jonathan Rauch’s The Constitution of Knowledge -It happened -David Sanger: “For Biden, Images of Defeat He Wanted to Avoid” -Jonah: “Dishonor in Afghanistan” -Well this is awkward -Eli: “Framed and Guilty” -Murphyism -“Suckers and losers” -The great debate -Eli joins Bari Weiss’ symposium -Biden’s latest remarks, which may or may not date this episode Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Oh

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Ladies and gentlemen

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Can I please have your attention

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all right, so

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This is this is a very depressing time in America. I think I don't need to expand too much on that

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but I will anyway because we're gonna do a whole podcast on it and

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I

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think

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Want we I decided that we're gonna record that we're recording this on Monday morning instead of the usual Tuesday

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I'm in park as I got a travel and in part because I just wanted to get stuff off my chest on this and

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And I thought no better there'd be really no better guest

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On here for for this top for talk about Afghanistan and how we screwed it up

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Then my friend Eli Lake from Bloomberg Bloomberg opinion he has been

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aggressively correct about all of this stuff for quite a while and

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And and I think he's one of the few people out there who's a firmatively angry or about all of it than I am so

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Eli welcome back to the remit. Thanks for having me and it is a dark day or a dark week

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So I actually want to begin in a weird weird way because you know when people by the time people listen to this

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