TPP 497: The Inner Work Behind Staying Present, with Matthew Fishleder
Full-Tilt Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children
Debbie Reber
4.8 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 31 March 2026
⏱️ 34 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Debbie Reber and this is full tilt parenting. |
| 0:05.0 | Today we are turning the lens inward and talking about the inner life of parents, |
| 0:10.1 | especially those of us, you guys out there listening to this show, raising neurodivergent |
| 0:14.0 | kids. |
| 0:14.7 | My guest is Matthew Fish Leader, a licensed marriage and family therapist who works with |
| 0:19.4 | adults navigating anxiety, |
| 0:21.2 | life transitions, and just the emotional complexity of being human. |
| 0:25.3 | Essential focus of Matthew's work is supporting parents in understanding their own worry, |
| 0:29.7 | guilt, and burnout as understandable responses to chronic stress. |
| 0:34.2 | His approach is neurodiversity affirming and it's grounded in humanistic acceptance-based |
| 0:39.2 | frameworks. So today we're going to explore what's actually happening when parents get stuck |
| 0:44.1 | in chronic worry about their kids' future, how self-criticism takes root, and why tending to |
| 0:49.5 | our own inner world is foundational to our kids' sense of safety. Matthew will share practical, |
| 0:55.2 | compassionate strategies for relating differently to anxiety so we can show up with more steadiness, |
| 1:00.4 | more presence, and more connection, even in those moments when we're activated the most. |
| 1:05.1 | So here is Matthew Fish Leader on the inner work behind staying present. |
| 1:11.7 | Hey, Matthew, welcome to the podcast. |
| 1:14.4 | Thanks so much for having me. |
| 1:15.9 | Yeah, I'm curious to see where we go in this conversation today, |
| 1:19.8 | but I'd love to hear a little bit more about you. |
| 1:23.0 | So just give us a little bit about your background and the lens through which you do the work |
| 1:26.5 | that you do, and maybe as part of that, your personal why. |
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