As men as fathers we have to have courage to step into hard things. We do.

Yet one of the things you can model most that gets really simple,

that can be hard. It can be a hard thing at times,

is are you modeling that when you fail and when stuff comes out of you sideways

They see you repair with your spouse? Welcome to Family Life Today, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most.

I'm Shelby Abbott and your hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson. You can find us at

FamilyLife Today.com. This is Family Life Today. All right, it's always a great day when we have these two people in the studio.

I know.

You want to hear to do so? David and Meg Robbins are in studio with us today.

Hey, Dan.

Good to be here.

We think it's a good day.

Do you guys think it's a good day?

It's a great.

You know what's fun about this day is that we just spent like five hours in the car together a few days ago and so it's good to be with you again.

It's great to have you. Yeah, it's been a phenomenal week. I mean it's a we had David Thomas and Sissy Gough and we got to do that interview in

Nashville. That was so fun at their counseling house. Have you ever been there?

That's awesome no. It's amazing. It really is. They have dogs, therapy dogs that run around.

We were talking about emotionally healthy kids and families.

And then the last couple days have been amazing with K.B. Burgess and Amin.

Southside rabbis and Amin.

Southside rabbis their podcast, but.

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