controversial subjects with the facts can be tense, but we are a sub-science here to make things make

sense. Today we are talking about toxic masculinity with your friend Kevin, aka Kevin McDonald,

an amazing online fitness coach and teacher. We'll get into it. We're talking about how the

definitions around toxic masculinity are actually created, how it affects boys, men,

in terms of mental health, what you can do about it, and also specifically with relation to

the queer community and body dysmorphia and all these things. So let's jump into it and welcome

our guest, Kevin McDonald.

Cheering all over the nation.

Everyone's losing their mind.

For those of those of people who aren't, why don't you, we'll take a second before we

jump into toxic masculinity to chat about who exactly are you, what you do, how you got

into being a coach, because we kind of found you just through like

tic talk i know you do twitch and youtube we watch as well and we honestly were just like it's nice

to have somebody who's teaching fitness it feels like well-rounded i felt like i actually was learning

in a way that wasn't so extreme as you know it's easy to fall into fitness influencers through

algorithms that are just kind of extreme um and so we were like it'd's easy to fall into fitness influencers through algorithms that are just

kind of extreme um and so we were like it'd be great to jots you so why don't you give us a little

background on who you are and uh where you got to doing what you do gosh well first of all thank you

so much for having me big fan of the pod big fan I am, how did we start?

So I guess during the pandemic, I was working at this hit gym, high-intensity

inter-training, and it shut down because the owner was paying rent.

And at that point, I was just kind of like thrust into a personal training world where I kind of

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