Toxic Masculinity and Invisible Loyalties
Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk Honda
4.6 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 28 January 2022
⏱️ 70 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | So, Berto, I thought we would read some patron emails and answer them, what do you say? |
| 0:05.2 | Let's do it. This is the Psychology and Seattle podcast. I'm a host, Dr. Kirk Honda, |
| 0:09.5 | I'm a therapist, and I'm also a professor who are you Umberto. My name is Umberto Casinha, |
| 0:14.7 | and I am a pervert of used gum. Patron Simone from New York says, |
| 0:19.2 | Hi, Dr. Kirk and Umberto, I found myself particularly enjoying the part of your toxic masculinity |
| 0:24.8 | episode where you and Umberto were listing examples of characters who displayed toxic masculinity |
| 0:31.0 | traits and those who also displayed positive masculinity traits. I was curious to know if you |
| 0:39.0 | both had any examples of characters who showed both. One of my favorite characters is the character, |
| 0:45.0 | one of my favorites along these lines is the character Steve from Stranger Things. At first, |
| 0:50.4 | he is toxic masculine in that he puts on a persona of being stereotypical |
| 0:56.3 | as a cool kid in a high school in the 80s, a show off at athlete, a bully, and one who dismisses |
| 1:02.3 | his girlfriend's needs and concerns. But eventually, he comes to realize that doing so wasn't worth |
| 1:07.4 | the damage he was causing. Over the course of the show, he then picks up a lot of great qualities, |
| 1:12.5 | like putting himself in harm's way to save others, prioritizing his girlfriend's happiness, |
| 1:17.4 | even if that meant letting her go, and even taking on the role, like watching over other kids, |
| 1:23.5 | that would not be considered masculine. I would a toxic masculine. I would love to hear any other |
| 1:28.8 | examples you can think of along these lines. So, Umberto, I didn't give you a chance to prep for this, |
| 1:34.5 | so I'm kind of spring this on you, but I took a couple of minutes to think about some. But before |
| 1:39.2 | doing that, I just want to review the toxic versus positive masculine characters that we identified. |
| 1:44.6 | I don't know if you can remember my top of your head, but for me, the toxic masculine characters |
| 1:49.4 | that I listed, um, in order from, uh, like the most to like one through five. Number one was the |
| 1:58.0 | funds. I thought he was, especially in the first couple of seasons, like just quintessential toxic |
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