Hey, everybody, my guest today is my old friend and colleague Rob Alot, who is an American

environmental attorney from Cincinnati, OIO. Alot is known for the lawsuits against DuPont on

half of plaintiffs from West Virginia and those were the lawsuits. I was co-counsel in that case

and those were the what we call the CA to the Teflon case is Mark Ruffalo was in the movie

of our quarters about that case playing Rob Alot and Rob had a several decades of his life

when he went from being a corporate attorney to being an unlikely and kicking and screaming

into the plaintiff's attorney bar and tried an amazing case and exposed the first time to the

American public that the dangers of these chemicals that are called BFOA's or BFAS is they are

also called forever chemicals and I'm going to let Rob explain why. Basically they last forever in

the environment but also they constantly recycle in your body once you consume them and I've had Rob

on this show before and it was a very very popular podcast and I want to get an update on what's

happened recently with BFOA is one of the reasons I wanted to get you on is the consumer reports

just published a white paper that shows that BFOA's are now widely used in food packaging

and particularly the containers of food that you get from fast food suppliers like McDonald's

or Wendy's and they're the containers they kind of look like plastic or cardboard but they have the

advantage for those companies and for consumers that salad dressing and other liquids in your food

will not leak through them the problem is that the chemicals that BFOA's from that packaging material

migrate into the food and they are and grind disruptors they cause low-perth way babies they

are associated with all right you and children I think most recently the EPA has I don't know if

they've classified them but they have published reports that indicate that there are potential

carcinogenic and let's start by talking about the packaging issue Rob what do you know about that

yeah first of all thanks so much for having me back it's a real pleasure

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