Hey, everybody, my guest today is Bruce Gagnon, who I would, I guess I describe you

Bruce as a, I guess in the broader level as a beast activist that you have, he is a veteran

of many, many, many battles, and particularly he has focused on the weaponization of his

face, he is the coordinator of the global and networking as weapons and nuclear power

in space. He was co-founder of that network in 1992, and he's the state coordinator of

the Florida Coalition for Peace and Justice. He's worked on space issues for over 35 years

in 1980 to 70, organized the largest peace protest in Florida history at Cape Canaveral.

He was the organizer of the Cancel Cassini campaign against NASA, where they were going

to put the 72 pounds of plutonium into space, and he has been given the award as having

most of censored articles of the year on the several years from project censored. I also

won that award a couple of times myself in clinic in 2005 and more recently as well.

I'm really happy to have you here, and I want to get your take on the Ukraine. One of the

things that I'm doing on this show is really, I don't have a position on the Ukraine. I don't

have a position on the Ukraine, but what really affects me is that there is no debate happening.

A no debate is permissible and this is the same thing that happened during the Iraq war between

2001 and 2003 during when we had this kind of a war constraint in the hysteria that was all

directed towards going to war, a preemptive war against Adelaud Stain, who had nothing to do with

9-11. He had nothing to do with the anthrax attacks, but the Neocons in Congress and in the White

House wanted a war, and they got a war. Today, I look around the world and I see a lot of villains

around the world, not just Vladimir Putin, but I see villains in Saudi Arabia who are killing

hundreds of people in Yemen. I see atrocities occurring in Somalia, in Ethiopia,

in many, many other hot spots in the world, and I have to wonder about whether all of the things

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