I'm great how are you doing excellent thank you very much for calling a Joanna Schwartz author of the book shielded

How the police became untouchable and that's the reason that you're calling you want to talk about this book

You're also a law professor at UCLA. I don't know. Is there more about your background that people should know?

Well, I was a civil rights lawyer in New York about 20 years ago and and my work

They're doing civil rights cases is sort of what what prompted me to become a law professor and do the research that I do and to write this book

I have a question for your way off to bat

What brings you from New York City? I imagine to UCLA. Are you just like well? I can do the same work and it's you know the weather's better

No, although that is both of those things are true. I

My husband's work brought him to Los Angeles. Okay

It was it was not not a planned not sort of professionally planned on my end. Okay

So this is how we ended up doing this interview today

I have to be honest with you a couple weeks ago. I was listening to

Something I don't even know what it was an interview with an author of some book and I went to the library at sounded interesting

I get there. They don't have it

But I was checking I was looking at the new books and I see right in front of me shielded and I had seen actually a

Right up of your book somewhere. I like some a review

I want to say it was like a slightly conservative leaning outlet

But they had they had kind of liked the book and so I was familiar. I was like, oh, I've seen this I start

I get it. I come home. I start reading it and

My producer here can can attest to this. I had just I'd started your book the night before the next day

I am driving to work now your book it starts off

You know before we even get to the first chapter you tell a story about a SWAT team kicking in the door of an old man's house

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