Being a mom is the toughest job there is and it doesn't come with instructions.

So it's okay if you don't have all the answers.

We'll figure it out together.

This is Mombrain with Alaria Baldwin and Daphne Az. Hey guys, welcome back to Monbrae.

I'm Elaria.

And I'm Daphne.

And you guys, today our guest is once again,

the incredible Dr. Tova Klein.

She was one of our first interviews in season one of Mombrin and we loved her so much

and you guys loved her so much because she is a national treasure and a

treasure trove of information about how to handle toddlers, how to help toddlers thrive,

how to help toddlers, you know grow into the little wonderful people that they come out as and just

become the best versions of themselves.

She is the director of the Barnard College Center for Toddler Development and a Psychology Professor at Barnard College at Columbia University.

And she, today is going to talk with us what it's like to parent young kids through quarantine through pandemic.

She's got some great ideas about what the silver linings here might be.

And I think in usual fashion, she just does a lot to calm the nerves and make you feel like

there is real there's real action we can be taking to better ourselves and better

our families and also some real step back moments where we can just like take a breather and give ourselves

a break for a second as well.

So I know you guys are going to love this conversation.

So a lot of it is this kind of a gift of like do a little less, step back a little bit more, and it's all

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