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Hey everybody, thanks for joining me today at the Busy Mom podcast. This is Heidi St. John,

and I'm so glad that you've tuned in today. Today I'm excited because my dear friend

Derrande is on the podcast with me, and we're going to be talking about tough times and tough

mothers because we are living in tough times, and it's going to require some moms out there

to start toughening up. And so we're going to take our, what is it, almost 50 years now of

mothering experience or combined mothering experience and talk about that today, but really

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