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Hey everybody, this is Heidi St. John. Welcome to the Busy Mom podcast. I'm glad that you've

joined me here today. For those of you who are here in the background, someone very special

is on the podcast today. Dorenda is back. Hey Dorenda. Hey, glad to have you here.

I know, it's nice to be communicating with you all the way across the country. I know,

it's crazy. I know it is. So we're going to, Dorenda and I have a couple things. We have

a couple bones we want to pick today. So we're going to, we're going to pick them dry on the podcast,

on the podcast day. But really quickly, I want to do a little bit of house housekeeping. I'm going

to be this coming weekend in Springfield, Missouri for the Shem Convention. It is not too late to get

tickets for that. And I would love to see you there. I'm actually going to be doing a special

workshop with my friend, Steve Lambert. And we are going to be talking about homeschooling held hostage.

So this is something you are not going to want to miss. If you can, if you're interested in

you're in the area, you can find a Shem by just hanging out at Google at ShemOnline.com and

purchase your tickets. I think you're getting pretty close to not being able to purchase

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