Tories Should Grovel At The Feet of Nurses
The Owen Jones Podcast
Owen Jones
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🗓️ 15 January 2023
⏱️ 8 minutes
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Summary
Are the Tories buckling before nurses' demands? News reports suggest they're beginning to accept they're going to have to increase their pay. For those who say we don't have enough money - we need to start asking ourselves what we value more: rich people being ridiculously rich, or a functioning healthcare system?
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| 0:00.0 | The nurses have got the Tories on the run. According to some news reports, which have just come out today, |
| 0:06.9 | Steve Barkley, the health secretary thinks he's going to have to give some ground on pay |
| 0:11.3 | because of the strikes, which have the overwhelming support, of course, of the NHS staff. |
| 0:15.6 | Now we're not at the Jamie Reinshow and I said they shouldn't just concede to them, they should |
| 0:19.3 | grovel. The nurses just do the most incredible job and do need to be recognised for the effort |
| 0:26.8 | that they put in and the empathy that they show to so many people, including people that we know. |
| 0:34.9 | But there is only a finite pot of money and what's really interesting is that |
| 0:39.2 | Stephen Barkley, even though he is privately talking about this and it's interesting that it's |
| 0:43.5 | private but it's been leaked so it's almost as if it's a kite flying exercise to see how it would |
| 0:48.4 | go down. He doesn't actually say, yes, you can just have the money. He's saying you can have |
| 0:53.9 | the money but I'm probably going to have to take that from your budget and there will have to |
| 0:57.5 | be cuts to services elsewhere. And at the moment, we already know that A&E is overstretched, |
| 1:02.7 | we know that ambulance drivers are frustrated that they can't leave their patients in the hospital |
| 1:08.7 | because there aren't enough beds as such a creaking service but there has been an awful lot of |
| 1:13.4 | investment in the NHS and in effect what the government is saying is unfortunately there isn't |
| 1:19.4 | a limitless supply of money so if you do want the money, there are going to have to be changes |
| 1:24.7 | made elsewhere. The idea of cuts and service will what are people at home or in water? |
| 1:29.2 | Which is why the NHS budget needs to be increased. I mean, these are about choices. By the way, |
| 1:33.9 | they shouldn't just back down. I think they should get the heads and knees and grovel to the nurses. |
| 1:38.1 | The issue of pay is not just a moral one. There is a moral question about the nurses who |
| 1:43.3 | carry this country through the worst crisis since World War II who are clapped by politicians who |
| 1:49.2 | then imposed real-terms pay cuts on them. That's a moral question. Should we treat nurses |
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