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The Peston Podcast

Toppled Statues, Broken Promises and Loos in Zoos

The Peston Podcast

Faraz Aghaei

Government, News Commentary, Politics, News

4.620 Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2020

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

This week on The Peston Podcast we're discussing how Boris Johnson has broken his promise to get primary school children back to school by July, why the Government can't stop people pooing in parks (yep, you read that right), and which statues (if any) should be toppled?

Join ITV's Political Editor Robert Peston in conversation with Oliver Dowden (Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport), Lisa Nandy (Shadow Foreign Secretary), Dawn Butler (Labour MP) and David Davis (Conservative MP).

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Transcript

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0:00.0

On this week's show, we're looking at why the Prime Minister feels unable to admit the mistakes have been made in the way that he's managed this crisis.

0:19.0

Why children aren't going back to school till

0:21.4

September on which statues should be dumped in rivers and on why the government can't stop

0:30.2

people pooing in parks.

0:32.9

With the former Tory Minister David Davis, the former Labour front, Penge Dawn Butler, the current Shadow Foreign Secretary, Lisa Nandy.

0:40.2

And first up, we've got Oliver Darden.

0:45.8

I started by pointing out that the OECD has said today

0:51.3

that the shock to our incomes, potentially our living standards, will be greater

0:56.3

here than in other big countries.

0:58.3

The death rate in the UK, the Office for National Statistics, indicates this is among the

1:02.2

very highest in the world.

1:04.8

And as I've already mentioned, the government advisor, Neil Ferguson says that 25,000 lives could have been saved if we'd locked down a week

1:13.6

earlier. So I started by asking Oliver Doudan, why doesn't the Prime Minister just say what

1:18.6

everybody thinks is common sense and admit that mistakes have been made?

1:23.6

In this situation where we have tragically lost thousands of lives,

1:28.3

there will be a time when we need to look at the lessons for doing so.

1:33.3

But I think your viewers would understand that ministers' focus now

1:37.3

should be on dealing with the crisis.

1:39.3

In terms of the lessons to be learned, different countries are at different stages of this.

1:43.3

It's difficult to draw effective comparisons. Of course there'll be a time to learn those lessons. The hesitation

1:50.0

here is that we want to focus on dealing with the crisis now in order to continue to protect lives

1:56.0

and to continue to get the crisis under control.

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