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Yeah, you know, the birthdays, like, you know, like a lot of times I'll talk about how important

the birthdays are.

You know, whether the years or minds have made a difference, because, you know, them

candles, you know, in the beginning, they, they, they didn't mean nothing to me at all,

you know.

And then this time went on, where the candles represented an awful lot of struggle from

a way of life and from places where I didn't believe I'd ever be able to get away from

them.

And then it came into a world that I couldn't describe how good that world is, you know, because

of the fact that the life that I get that I had been given, you know, and here an alcoholic

synonymous, why it was something really to know and something to talk about, because

of fact, the alcoholic synonymous in the beginning for me, you know, was probably maybe similar

or a little bit like yours or we are, is that the main purpose of coming here was to

stay sober.

And to stay sober was the name of the game and it wasn't the name of the game too at that

time, because I came here out of a hospital where I had to stay sober, where I wound up locked

in a room and strapped down on a bed, you know, and so on.

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