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Off Air with Jane & Fi

Top of the Popes (with James Fox)

Off Air with Jane & Fi

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News, Chat, Entertainment, Society & Culture, Relationships, Women, Community, Unknown, Times Radio, Jane Garvey, Entertainment News, Fi Glover, News Commentary, Conversation, The Times

4.7884 Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Is anyone thinking about Johnny's sister? And what about Johnny's sister's husband?! Well, we are! Jane and Fi also think about dog DNA, cockneys, and AI unions.


Plus, academic and writer James Fox joins us to discuss his book 'Craftland'.


You can listen to the playlist here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3qIjhtS9sprg864IXC96he?si=uOzz4UYZRc2nFOP8FV_1jg&pi=BGoacntaS_uki


If you want to contact the show to ask a question and get involved in the conversation then please email us: [email protected]


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Podcast Producer: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler


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1:08.3

Right. Welcome to Offair for Thursday.

1:14.8

Now, what do we have for you today? Well, all sorts of thuff, including an interview with, this is a man called James Fox, and I always think of the acting dynasty, but it's not.

1:19.6

Nothing to do with that. So he is an eminent academic, and he's written a book. He's written

1:25.1

many books, actually. This one is about craft. It's about the

1:28.2

vanishing crafts of this country. And I think this week we've done hopefully a decent job,

1:34.5

well Eve has done the decent job, of booking some guests that take our minds elsewhere,

1:39.5

like the lovely Ray Mears, and hopefully James Fox will do the same thing. So the book's just

1:43.9

about all of the

1:44.6

things that used to make up really integral parts of our society. So the people who made the baskets,

1:53.3

who banged iron in a foundry, who built the dry stone walls, who kept our economic and social climate good and and you might think oh gosh

2:04.4

that's just going to be a great big kind of weepy of nostalgia for times before but it's really

2:10.0

interesting it's really lovely and i think he's got some quite decent things to say about the way

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