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This is the Intelligence Matters podcast with former acting director of the CIA, Michael

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Sanctions don't work by themselves.

Sanctions are enormously more effective if you have other countries amplifying what we're

doing.

You have grudging acceptance of U.S. sanctions rather than embrace of U.S. sanctions,

you get evasion.

That's where we are with regard to the re-imposition of sanctions on Iran.

The sanctions on the payment for the sale of Iranian oil will be coming back into effect.

The sanctions will have an impact.

There's no question they will have an impact.

I think Iran's trying to figure out what it is that the U.S. is trying to accomplish.

What is the U.S. policy goal here?

I think the administration made a serious misstep in the Singapore summit because it was

an important leverage that we had over the North Koreans, you know, get them to do something

before you get my meaning with the president.

And I think the effect has been that the sanctions are not nearly as powerful today as they

were nine months ago.

David Cohen is a law partner at Wilmer Hale, where he leads the firm's financial and

business integrity group and where he represents a vast array of clients on matters involving

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