The Khashoggi Case: Intel Veteran Norman Roule on Implications for Saudi Arabia

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🗓️ 22 October 2018

⏱️ 31 minutes

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In this episode of Intelligence Matters, guest host retired Navy Admiral Sandy Winnefeld interviews Norman Roule, who spent decades at the CIA and Office of the Director of National Intelligence managing significant programs related to the Middle East. Roule, who recently returned from a trip to Saudi Arabia, explains how developments in the Khashoggi matter are being received by Saudi citizens and what senior officials in the Kingdom may do in response to widespread calls for transparency and accountability. Roule also details the many other challenges facing the Kingdom - including its domestic modernization push, the Yemen and Syria conflicts on its borders, and its efforts to build a post-oil economy.

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0:34.4	Morel.
0:35.4	It's not unreasonable to think that Saudi leadership were probably aware of an interrogation.
0:43.9	The idea that a murder was approved by the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia is something that
0:48.6	I've seen no evidence for this.
0:50.2	It's not in the DNA of their past operational activity.
0:54.8	Do you have any thoughts on what happens when the dust settles here and it finally becomes
0:59.8	clear what actually happened in Istanbul and who knew about it?
1:02.4	So I think it's important that even before the dust settles, we maintain our campaign
1:07.3	to require a thorough, transparent, and prompt investigation with the most severe punishment
1:13.7	possible for those who are deemed to have been involved in the murder.
1:16.6	I think that's important not just so that these Saudis and others in the region understand
1:21.1	you can't shouldn't do this.
1:23.0	But I think we need to send a message to the world that you need to protect journalists.
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