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I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

Top 10 Reasons Why Borders are Biblical

I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

Dr. Frank Turek

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Education

4.8 • 5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Immigration is one of the most emotionally charged issues of our time, but what does the Bible really say about borders and deportations? Are borders unbiblical, or do they play a necessary role in human flourishing? And can governments enforce laws without violating Jesus’ teachings? In this episode, Frank goes straight to Scripture to discuss one of today’s most heated cultural debates, exposing how key Bible passages are often taken out of context to support mass immigration narratives that the text itself does not teach.Tune in as Frank lays out why the Bible consistently affirms borders and answers questions like:* Was Jesus an illegal immigrant?* What are four simple rules for interpreting the Bible correctly?* Why do people confuse biblical commands to individuals with commands to governments?* How can misplaced empathy– Toxic Empathy– lead to unintended negative consequences?* What role does the government play according to Romans 13?* Why are borders necessary for civilization to function?* Is religion the cause of most wars?* Does biblical love mean unconditional approval?* What are Augustine's order of loves and how do they help stabilize society?* Why are global governments so dangerous?If you’ve ever felt confused by how Scripture is used in the immigration debate, this episode is for you! Tune in as Frank explains why borders and justice aren’t opposed to compassion, but work together when Scripture is understood correctly. And because all ten biblical reasons for borders can’t possibly fit into one program, this conversation sets the stage for a follow-up episode you won’t want to miss!If you enjoyed this podcast episode PLEASE HELP US SPREAD THE TRUTH OF CHRISTIANITY BY SUPPORTING OUR MINISTRY USING THE LINK BELOW. 100% of your donation goes to ministry, 0% to buildings!Resources mentioned during the episode:Donate to CrossExamined - https://donor.crossexamined.org/ (https://donor.crossexamined.org/)How to Interpret Your Bible Self-Paced Course - https://bit.ly/4asZCD6 (https://bit.ly/4asZCD6)Toxic Empathy by Allie Beth Stuckey - https://a.co/d/4sCGBJj (https://a.co/d/4sCGBJj)The Unseem Realm with Michael Heiser - https://crossexamined.org/the-unseen-realm/ (https://crossexamined.org/the-unseen-realm/)Wayne Grudem article - https://bit.ly/4sabpyq (https://bit.ly/4sabpyq)Why Everyone Believes in Secure Borders by Frank Turek - https://bit.ly/3MRBnqA (https://bit.ly/3MRBnqA)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Ladies gentlemen, you want controversy? We have it here on I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an atheist as we approach the end of the year. Merry Christmas.

0:11.4

Happy New Year. Let me ask some questions because we're going to get into the Bible here and see how it applies to a very controversial subject.

0:20.2

And that is, what does the Bible teach about

0:23.3

borders, about immigration, about deportation? Because you hear, you know, Jesus was an immigrant.

0:30.9

And it would seem that if you read some passages, you might think it's wrong for a nation to have

0:36.9

borders and deport illegal immigrants.

0:40.5

I mean, as Christians were commanded to love, so should we oppose borders and deportations?

0:47.7

Not only that, but the Bible says that the government should punish wrongdoers,

0:52.7

but it also says to turn the other cheek into love people.

0:55.4

So how can you do both at the same time?

0:58.3

Isn't the Bible contradictory?

1:01.4

And can we enforce laws and love people at the same time?

1:05.9

In fact, what does it mean to love people?

1:09.5

Well, in order to dive into this, I want to give a thought experiment.

1:17.1

It's probably something that's happened to us all.

1:20.0

Did you ever get a text from somebody and you're looking at it and you're going,

1:23.5

is that for me?

1:25.2

And then they text you back like a second later.

1:27.4

Oh, sorry, that wasn't for you.

1:28.9

And, you know, you've probably done that.

1:30.8

I've done that.

1:32.0

You know, you're texting somebody and somehow you get off that thread and you're on another

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