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Smashing Security

Toothpick flirts, Google leaks, and ICE ICE scammers

Smashing Security

Graham Cluley

Technology, News, Tech News

4.7 • 579 Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

What do a sleazy nightclub carpet, Google’s gaping privacy hole, and an international student conned by fake ICE agents have in common? This week’s episode of the "Smashing Security" podcast obviously.

Graham explains how a Singaporean bug-hunter cracked Google’s defences and could brute-force your full phone number. Meanwhile, Carole dives into a chilling scam where ICE impersonators used fear, spoofed numbers, and... Apple gift cards to extort terrified migrants.

Plus: Nazis, door safety, and the age-old struggle of telling Ralph Fiennes from Liam Neeson.

All this and more is discussed in the latest edition of the "Smashing Security" podcast by cybersecurity veterans Graham Cluley and Carole Theriault.

Warning: This podcast may contain nuts, adult themes, and rude language.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

There you are mid-dance and then suddenly you stop.

0:10.2

There is the person of your dreams leaning against the wall in the corner, nonchalantly nibbling on a couple of toothpicks.

0:18.1

And do you think? A couple of toothpicks.

0:20.7

You think to yourself, I want them to want me. Does that at all sound familiar to you? No. Wreck your memory, crow. Do you have a specific memory in mind that I'm not remembering? No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, good. Don't panic.

0:37.7

Smashing Security, Episode 421, Toothpick Flirts, Google Leaks, and Ice Scammers with Carol Terrio and Graham Cluley.

0:58.1

Hello, hello and welcome to Smash Insecurity Episode 421. My name's Graham Cluley.

1:02.9

And I'm Carol Terrio.

1:05.0

What's coming up on the show this week, Krall?

1:07.6

Well, first let's thank this week's wonderful sponsors, Flair, Drata and Vanta. It's their

1:14.0

support that help us give you this show for free. Now, coming up on today's show, Graham, what do you

1:19.2

got? I'm going to be talking about how hackers could have shimmied through Google's defenses to steal

1:24.6

your phone number. And I'm looking into a hidden problem in ICE's immigration directives.

1:33.2

All this and much more coming up on this episode of Smashing Security.

1:41.3

Now, chums, chums question for you.

1:43.5

And I suppose specifically for you, Carol, do you remember your younger footloose days when you were fancy free?

1:51.1

Certainly do.

1:52.1

You think of them fondly, right?

1:54.2

Well, I have a pretty good life now, too, as well, in many ways.

1:57.6

That's good.

1:58.4

I'm talking about the days where you'd shimmy and groove around to the latest hits at the discotheque, stretching the dance floor, doing the Harlem Shuffle.

2:06.3

We were recently talking about a club that was nearby called Stickies, and it was called Stickies because the carpet was so disgusting.

2:15.5

They had a carpet, and it would be full of beer and gum and whatever, because people smoked back of the old days. It was so disgusting. They had a carpet and it would be full of beer and gum and whatever

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