Fake Susies, flawed systems, and fruity fixes for anxiety
Smashing Security
Graham Cluley
4.7 • 579 Ratings
🗓️ 4 June 2025
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
A bizarre case of political impersonation, where Trump’s top aide Susie Wiles is cloned (digitally, not biologically — we think), and high-ranking Republicans start getting invitations to link up with "her" on Telegram to share their Trump pardon wishlists. Was it a deepfake? Or just someone with a halfway decent impression and access to a shady data broker?
Meanwhile, we take a worryingly familiar journey into the mental health crisis in the UK — and how TikTok is stepping in with advice like “eat an orange in the shower” to cure your anxiety. Spoiler: it won’t. But it might make your bathroom smell nice.
Plus: a nostalgic tech support tale involving a CRT monitor, a wooden door, and an unexpected shade of brown.
All this and more is discussed in the latest edition of the "Smashing Security" podcast by cybersecurity veterans Graham Cluley and Carole Theriault.
Warning: This podcast may contain nuts, adult themes, and rude language.
Episode links:
- Federal Authorities Probe Effort to Impersonate White House Chief of Staff - Wall Street Journal.
- FBI probes effort to impersonate White House chief of staff Susie Wiles, sources say - CBS News.
- The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans - The Atlantic.
- The Trump campaign is still being hacked - Popular Information.
- The Big Mental Health Report - Mind.
- Mental Health Pressures - British Medical Association.
- More than half of top 100 mental health TikToks contain misinformation, study finds - The Guardian.
- ‘They thought they were doing good but it made people worse’: why mental health apps are under scrutiny - The Guardian.
- How to find therapy or counselling - Mind.
- Carole in the shower with an orange? - Twitter.
- Matter - modern read-later app for iPhone, iPad, and web.
- Techie fixed a ‘brown monitor’ by closing a door - The Register.
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| 0:00.0 | Eating an orange in the shower. |
| 0:05.1 | Yes, listeners, if anyone remembers, tell Graham, please. |
| 0:09.1 | So this was a long, I don't even how many years is this? |
| 0:11.4 | Oh, I've just found it, episode 147. |
| 0:14.7 | There you go, a long time ago. |
| 0:17.0 | In fact, you posted a picture on Twitter. |
| 0:21.9 | Tonight! |
| 0:26.8 | Smashing Security, episode 420, fake Susie's, flawed systems, and fruity fixes for anxiety with Carol Terrio and Graham Cluley. |
| 0:39.5 | Hello, hello and welcome to Smash Insecurity Episode 420. My name's Graham Cluley. |
| 0:44.0 | And I'm Carol Terrio. |
| 0:45.8 | What's coming up on the show this week, Krill? |
| 0:48.2 | Before we kick off, let's thank this week's wonderful sponsors, Metaccompliance, Harmonic, and Vanta. |
| 0:55.5 | It's their support that help us give you this show for free. |
| 0:58.5 | Now, coming up on today's show, Graham, what do you got? |
| 1:01.4 | Someone has deep-faked Trump's top aid. |
| 1:05.2 | And we're going to find out where the kids are getting their mental health advice. |
| 1:10.5 | All this and much more coming up on |
| 1:12.2 | this episode of Smashing Security. |
| 1:16.5 | Now, chums, chums, we all remember that witty chappy Oscar Wilde. Well, we don't necessarily |
| 1:23.1 | remember it. I never met him. I never met him. No, exactly. Exactly. Well, okay, all right, |
| 1:26.9 | but we remember what he wrote. |
| 1:28.6 | And most famously, in the importance of being earnest, he said that to lose one parent may be regarded as a |
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