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🗓️ 3 April 2023
⏱️ 70 minutes
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Too much note-taking stymies understanding. Today on the show, Ben and Nathan discuss how to study effectively for a skills-based test like the LSAT. Hint: spend less time taking notes and more time engaging with the material. They also answer listeners’ questions about undergraduate versus graduate GPAs, LSAC fee waivers, and more.
4.14.2023 — April LSAT begins
4.25.2023 — June LSAT registration deadline
5.3.2023 — April LSAT scores released
6.9.2023 — June LSAT begins
6.28.2023 — June LSAT scores released
0:00 - Upcoming Free Class
Register for Ben’s free Reading Comprehension class on April 17.
1:48 - We’re Hiring
LSAT Demon is looking for former students who scored above 170 and are interested in teaching. Email [email protected] with a screenshot of your official LSAT score and a video of you teaching a question or logic game.
2:59 - Don’t Pay for Law School - Listener Anthony writes in with good news: he took Ben and Nathan’s advice and will be going to law school for free. Congrats, Anthony!
12:19 - Fee Waivers and Graduate GPAs - An anonymous listener shares information about LSAC’s fee waiver timeline. The fee waiver kicks in when you get approved, not when you sign up for a test. Anonymous also asks about their graduate GPA and whether it will make their UGPA look better. It’s a soft factor, but it might be a point in your favor.
19:06 - Take Practice Tests in the Demon - A student emailed the Demon help team to ask why Law Hub and LSAT Demon calculated different scores for the same practice test. Law Hub uses an outdated scoring scale from when the test had four scored sections. Ben and Nathan advise Demon students to take their practice tests in the Demon.
24:29 - Is Note-Taking Effective? - Listener Jeff asks if he should start taking notes while he’s drilling. The guys assure him that taking notes isn’t necessary. Don’t fall into the trap of using note-taking as a crutch. Focus on real understanding. They clarify that it might be helpful to some students and offer advice on how to take notes effectively.
34:35 - There Are No Second-Best Answers - Jeff also asks about his self-diagnosed habit of picking commonly chosen wrong answers on Logical Reasoning questions. Ben and Nathan point out possible selection bias that occurs when students focus only on what they get wrong. They emphasize the power of prediction to solve the problem.
37:08 - Lawyers Ask for Special Treatment - Listener Will asks if he should contact his undergrad institution to request that they change some of his grades. The guys assure him that it’s worth a shot if he can make a convincing case for himself—the worst they can say is no.
41:50 - Listener Book Recommendation - Listener Molly writes in with a book recommendation endorsed by Ben and Nathan: Way Worse Than Being A Dentist: The Lawyer's Quest for Meaning, by Will Meyerhofer.
48:56 - Valuable Work Experience - Listener Sarah has 11 years of work experience as a paralegal. Still, she has concerns about her UGPA. Ben and Nathan recommend that she focus on her strengths, not her weaknesses.
55:10 - The LNAT Versus the LSAT? - Listener Peyton asks about law schools outside the United States and the Law National Aptitude Test. The guys think the LNAT sounds highly comparable to the LSAT.
58:12 - Personal Statement Feedback - Listener Sam wants to know if the guys plan to critique more applicants’ personal statements on the podcast before the next application cycle. Ben and Nathan encourage students looking for support on their personal statements to work with Leslie at LSAT Demon.
1:02:26 - ChatGPT’s Effect on Lawyers - Listener Ashwin asks for Ben’s and Nathan’s thoughts on how ChatGPT and other AI will affect the legal profession. The guys think AI will have a significant impact on many professions.
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to episode 396 of the thinking else had podcast I'm Ben Olson with me as Nathan Fox. We're the co-founder of |
0:16.2 | Elsad Demon.com and the Elsad Demon Daily Podcast. If you want to be Elsat Famous you can share news and ask questions on our website, thinking Elsat.com. |
0:27.0 | This episode is going to air on Monday, April 3rd. |
0:31.0 | Coming up on Monday, April 17th at 10 a.m. Pacific 1 p.m. Eastern. I am apparently offering a free reading |
0:39.6 | com class. I didn't know that until reading this right now so that's great. |
0:44.0 | I mean that's always when I teach but I didn't know that this class is free. |
0:48.0 | You can sign up for that at L-Sat.link forward slash Ben. |
0:52.0 | We will be doing a reading com passage together and then I will read through it and show you how I read and engage with the passage sentence by sentence. So I will read the whole passage to you and make |
1:07.0 | comments on it as I go and a lot of people comment that when I do that they realize how closely they need to actually read. |
1:17.0 | Yeah. |
1:18.0 | Don't miss it. |
1:19.0 | It's one of the most popular classes in the Demon every week is Ben's class so get the opportunity to |
1:24.7 | come check out one of our biggest best classes again Monday April 17th |
1:30.3 | 10 a.m. Pacific 1 p.m. 1 p.m. Eastern, |
1:33.0 | Ben teaching a reading comp class. |
1:35.0 | How do people sign up for that? |
1:36.0 | They can just go to Elsat. |
1:38.0 | link forward slash Ben, or if you already have a demon free account |
1:42.0 | and you go to El Sad Demon.com |
1:43.8 | forward slash classes you'll see it there on the 17th of April. |
1:47.2 | Yeah sounds great. If you're already a student of ours or actually if you're a |
1:51.5 | former student of ours we are hiring for |
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