New Test Center Option (Ep. 397)
Thinking LSAT
Nathan Fox and Ben Olson
4.8 • 868 Ratings
🗓️ 10 April 2023
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Summary
In-person testing is back. Beginning with the August 2023 LSAT, test takers will be able to choose between taking the LSAT at home or in person at a test center. Nathan and Ben weigh in on the announcement. Later, the guys extol the virtues of “inbox zero,” give advice on how to approach a delicate LOR request, and diagnose the likely cause of a listener’s disappointing application cycle.
1:09 - In-Person Testing - The guys react to the announcement that LSAC will resume administering the LSAT at in-person test centers for the 2023–2024 testing cycle. Beginning in August, test takers will have the choice of whether to take the test at home or in person.
12:09 - Inbox Zero - Ben and Nathan explain the purpose behind LSAT Demon’s Review Inbox feature and advise students on how to approach their review. The guys also praise the “inbox zero” approach to email management.
21:57 - Make the LSAT Fun - Demon student Bella has learned to love the LSAT after previously struggling with other prep companies. The guys view Bella’s progress as the natural outcome of the Demon’s commonsense approach.
26:35 - Should I Keep Going? - Listener Aly has mastered Logic Games but feels stuck in the other sections of the test. Should she keep studying or accept that she’s reached her limit? Nathan and Ben suggest ways to continue improving in Logical Reasoning and Reading Comprehension.
31:55 - Applying for Accommodations - Listener Isidora can’t apply for accommodations until she registers for an actual LSAT, but she doesn’t feel ready to take the official test. Ben and Nathan advise Bella to register and change her test date later if she needs to.
36:08 - A Risky LOR Request - Listener B worries that asking their current boss for a letter of recommendation might threaten their job security. Should B hide their law school plans from their employer? Nathan and Ben suspect that B is overthinking things.
44:38 - Comparing Scholarship Offers - Ben and Nathan compare listener Niki’s scholarship offers from a handful of schools in California. The guys encourage Niki to consider applying more broadly.
1:00:36 - Bluebooking with GhatGPT - An anonymous listener shares their negative experience using ChatGPT for citing legal sources. Nathan and Ben hold that, despite the chatbot’s current imperfections, AI is sure to have a profound impact on many lawyers’ jobs soon.
1:05:57 - What Did I Do Wrong? - Demon student G is confused by the results of their application cycle: a bunch of rejections and waitlists at schools where G expected scholarship offers. Ben and Nathan share their suspicions on where G went wrong.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to episode 397 of the Thinking Alsat Podcast. I'm Nathan Fox. With me is Ben Olson. We're the co-founder of |
| 0:14.0 | Elsat Demon.com and the Elsat Demon Daily Podcast. You can be Elsat famous by |
| 0:18.7 | sharing news or asking questions on our website thinking Elsat.com. We're actually going to lead today with an item that |
| 0:26.1 | listeners sent into us, a brand new news from Elsack that came out tomorrow or came out yesterday about them doing online |
| 0:36.0 | offline testing again so they're going to have testing centers we'll get into it in |
| 0:40.0 | just a second that's the big news for today. This show is going to air on Monday, |
| 0:45.5 | April 10th. That means you have a week still before Ben's free reading |
| 0:50.6 | comprehension class. That's coming up on Monday April 17th 10 a.m. |
| 0:54.2 | Pacific 1 p.m. eastern time go to elsat dot link forward slash Ben if you'd like to |
| 1:01.0 | register for that go to elsat Demon.com forward slash classes if you want to register for any of our free stuff |
| 1:08.6 | All right ready to get into this brand new news? Let's do it. |
| 1:12.8 | Cool. What do you think? |
| 1:13.7 | I mean, were you shocked when you saw this? |
| 1:16.7 | Or were you like, well? |
| 1:18.8 | I was a little surprised just because it's so much more convenient, |
| 1:21.7 | I think to Proctor an online tests than to Proctor |
| 1:26.1 | an online test in in-person testing centers, right? So they're kind of, they're like going back |
| 1:34.5 | to what they did before, but not entirely |
| 1:37.6 | because the test is still gonna be administered digitally, |
| 1:41.1 | but. |
| 1:42.1 | And I would think that the vast majority of applicants are still gonna, or candidates, are still gonna choose the home version. |
| 1:51.0 | I mean, scores have skyrocketed since COVID right or boy at least scores for our students have |
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