Too Little, Too Late Show (ft. Giancarlo Sopo)

The American Mind

The Claremont Institute

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🗓️ 24 July 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Hosts Spencer Klavan and Mike Sabo revisit the 2016 RussiaGate hoax, prompted by new documents just declassified by Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard. Despite assessments that Russia lacked the capacity to sway elections, Obama and top staffers seem to have directed US intelligence to sabotage then-president Trump. Meanwhile, the Left has found its new Joe Rogan: Hunter Biden, of course! Plus: Giancarlo Sopo of the National Review joins the guys to discuss the cancellation of Stephen Colbert’s tedious “Late Show” and the political rot of similar programming, followed by media recommendations.

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome once again to the Roundtable, your weekly publishers and editors podcast here at the American Mind. I'm your host, Spencer Claven, Associate Editor of the Claremont Review of Books and publicly funded editor of The American Mind. You didn't know that your tax dollars
0:38.8	were actually paying my salary, but soon Trump will probably issue an executive order to correct
0:44.5	all of that. I am here right now just one-on-one with managing editor Mike Sabo. Our publisher and
0:52.3	president Ryan Williams is at an undisclosed secure location
0:57.4	meeting and conferring with that shadowy cabal of Claire Monsters you've read so much about
1:03.3	in the New York Times. So it'll just be Mike and I for now holding down that particular
1:09.5	linguistic port, but it'll just be Mike and I for the first couple segments,
1:12.8	but then we will be joined in a little bit by buddy and mine,
1:16.3	Giancarlo Sopo, who's a publicist and cultural writer at National Review.
1:22.7	He'll actually not phone in, but come hang out at my house.
1:26.2	And we will talk together about our third and final
1:29.2	segment, which will be to preview it, the cancellation of Stephen Colbert's late show and the
1:37.2	blockage, as I alluded to earlier, of public funding for NPR and PBS. But now, Mike,
1:44.0	lets you and I talk about Russiagate again. I have to
1:50.0	say, didn't entirely predict that this would come back into the news, although perhaps I should
1:55.3	have since one of the second Trump administration's major concern seems to be relitigating some of these
2:01.8	controversies from 2016 and thereafter. I'm going to try my best to lay out a little TikTok here
2:10.3	and articulate the views of the various people who have weighed in and then we ourselves will weigh in.
2:16.8	So think back, if you will,
2:18.5	cast your mind back to December 8th, 2016. Donald Trump has been elected for the first time
2:25.6	to the shock and awe of the country. But Obama is still president. We haven't had the inauguration.
2:30.6	So it's President Obama, President elect Trump. On the eve of December 9th,
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