Jackie Cache and Laurie Kilmartin.

Jackie Cache and Laurie Kilmartin.

It's the Jackie and Laurie show, the Jackie and Laurie show.

It's the Jackie and Laurie show, the Jackie and Laurie show.

Jackie, having the audacity to say, nah, it's too boring. The Jackie and Lori show.

Jackie, having the audacity to say,

nah, it's too boring for the podcast.

You've heard this podcast.

Nothing is boring for our podcast.

I think right out the gate we got a name for the show.

Too boring for this. I have to say that

essentially I'm just I'm I'm irritable because there's a lot of new software that um and new

interfaces and everyone's like no it's easy it easy. It's intuitive. And I'm like, fuck you.

Nothing's intuitive. Nothing is intuitive. Everything is learned. And granted, I can go from an iPhone

to another iPhone. And that's intuitive. But I had to learn the initial iPhone. No, it's true.

Like I can do old Photoshop that's like $75,000. but I had to learn the initial iPhone. No, it's true.

Like I can do old Photoshop that has like 75,000 menus, but anything streamlined.

I'm like, what?

Where's the, where's the last? We don't get it.

Yeah.

Maybe there's just an age where your brain is malleable and you got it.

Whatever it is, you got it.

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