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Hey this is Brian. You make the argument that Tony Gilroy, who's on today's

podcast is, you know, the best screenwriter currently working and a great director, too.

We recorded this in this episode originally ran a couple years back before Tony went in and worked on Road One for which he ended up getting credit as a writer, I think a producer.

But I think in listening to it you will hear the way that he thinks about doing what he does, why he does it, how he does it.

And for anyone trying to do something creative or trying to get the most out of the creative part of themselves

I think this episode is really inspiring and compelling so enjoy Tony Gilroy back with the new

episode next week. And now the moment with Brian Koppelman.

Hey, this is the moment. I'm Brian Koppelman. Thanks for listening.

Tony Gilroy is my guest today.

Tony's simply one of the great living screenwriters and

filmmakers in the world today. He wrote and directed Michael Clayton. He wrote and

directed the Bourne Legacy and has written The Born Supremacy,

and the Born Identity, among many other films.

One of the smartest guys I know, one of the most interesting guys I know, I know. And as an artist, somebody who inspires me all the time

because he will not compromise on what is essential and he took that position long before the business

accorded him the permission to do so and his earned the right to continue to pursue his

creative vision in exactly the way that he sees it, which is not an easy

thing to pull off on any level.

It never has been, but this is probably the most difficult time in the traditional movie business to do that.

So Tony Gilroy will be under a second.

He's walking in now and we'll start talking.

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