In the recent versions of South Beach sessions we've been talking to my friends about really vulnerable things and I cannot say that Tommy

Vittor is my friend. I can say that I have admired his story from afar because it seems crazy to me some of the stuff that he's done and the business venture that he is now embarked on, which is wildly successful, but probably comes with some trapdoors that he never expected and the audience has no idea about.

But so just a brief synopsis in his past life he worked for President Obama for nine years including his White House National Security spokesman.

He is now the co-host of Podsave America and the host of Podsave the World, the weekly no bullshit conversation that breaks down international news and foreign policy developments and it's not boring.

It doesn't, this is hard subject matter and they make it fun to learn with them and he makes it fun to learn.

He also has basically started the crooked media empire that he co-founded with his friends and so Tommy thank you.

You can listen and subscribe to Podsave the World, new episodes every Wednesday and Podsave America with new episodes Tuesday and Thursday, wherever you get your podcasts.

Thank you for joining us. We've never spoken but your story seems crazy.

So let's just start with what do you think is the craziest part of your story?

Dan thank you so much for that very nice intro and for having me on the show. I've been in kind of a defensive crouch all morning as a Boston sports fan.

I thought this was just going to be a Celtics roast, a Bruins roast, whatever you wanted it to be.

But you know if you want to skip over that part just beating me down.

We can make fun of Bill, we can make fun of Bill Simmons later if you want to. We can do that together.

We can just use him as the symbol and avatar for making fun of all things Boston sports.

Okay, but pain because you come from that tree.

I'm super curious as to how all of that happened. But just before we get to that, what do you view as the craziest parts of your story, your journey?

The White House, the White House. I mean I think so much of life in my career has been luck in timing.

And basically I graduated from college in 2002. I interned for Ted Kennedy for a while on Capitol Hill.

And I desperately wanted to get a job in his office to sort of like the front desk guy, you know fetching coffee for people, whatever it might be.

And I didn't get hired and I was completely devastated, but not getting that job led me to campaigns and to work for President Obama on his then Senate campaign in 2004.

And that little piece of luck led all the way to the White House and sort of a completely improbable journey.

Okay, luck, but also you view it as oh my god, they're going to pay me to just spend all this time learning about like secrets of how the world runs.

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