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How Do You Cope?

Tom Rosenthal: ‘I’ve had personal experience of a higher power’ | 25

How Do You Cope?

Wondery

Mental Health, Health & Fitness

5695 Ratings

🗓️ 4 August 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

How do we live the most fulfilled life possible?


John sits down with his friend the comedian and actor Tom Rosenthal to discuss faith, coming to terms with loss, and experiencing a higher plane of existence.


Tom describes how taking part in the BBC documentary Pilgrimage led to him confronting buried trauma around the loss of his unborn child.


He also explains how he experienced a transcendental episode where he encountered a different plane of existence, and outlines his approach to spirituality.


On Thursday in our bonus episode The Gratitude List, Tom shares the 5 things that he is currently grateful for.


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0:00.0

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0:04.7

Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts.

0:12.2

Hello, I'm Marina Hyde.

0:13.9

And I'm Richard Osmond.

0:15.0

And we are the hosts of The Rest is Entertainment.

0:17.5

Now, each week, Richard and I speak about our favourite entertainment news stories and incredible behind-the-scenes facts. In the last few weeks, we've looked at the

0:24.2

wild story of Noel Edmund's new Kiwi Hideaway, the ongoing Beckham family feud, and

0:29.1

is John Robbins the greatest stand-up of his generation? Or is it Ellis James? In our Thursday

0:33.7

questions and answers episode, we tell you the secrets of showbiz, including how

0:37.7

they film race across the world, why prop mugs are always empty, and why new books smell like

0:43.2

that.

0:44.1

You can catch the rest is entertainment wherever you get your podcast or such. The Rest is Entertainment

0:48.3

on YouTube. Back to John.

0:50.5

Right. Okay. Amazing facts we've learned on our podcast.

0:59.0

Once we had a zookeeper on who told us that bananas are bad for monkeys.

1:04.0

And a politician who told us all about the pubs in the actual houses of Parliament. Yeah, and what about the astronaut who told us about how to make a curry in space?

1:08.0

Mind blown.

1:09.0

We could talk about the marine biologist,

1:11.2

the prison guard, the cheesemaker.

1:13.2

So many fascinating people, Joe.

1:15.5

If you want hilarious stories

1:17.5

and to learn about the weird

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