Hello and we're welcome to the skin with me Russell Brand. Today I spoke to Professor Tom Oliver.

Tom Oliver is a professor in ecology at the University of Reading. I thought for a minute it was the

University of reading which would be a bloody good university because you got to master that. a Systems Expert and Senior Fellow within the UK Government is informing environmental policy,

eh? I didn't know that. Why don't I read these things before I talk to people?

Then I would know. He's published more than 65 scientific papers.

And before you criticize him, how many scientific papers have you published Jen?

I mean I just did a master's.

Did you publish any papers Jen? No. I was on the way to doing it but 65

nil it's a landslide what route he's done 65 papers you've not even done one

what was your master's even in I was going to to do a PhD and then you started going on tour and you ruined it.

We were all going to do things, Jen.

But did we do them?

So instead of criticizing Trump, why don't you?

When's your Golden Tower before you criticize him?

65 papers.

He won the Marsh Award for Entomology in 2014.

Plus he's wrote the self-delusion which explores how people, animals, plants on the planet we live in

are all intimately connected.

I've had the conversation with him already.

He's a brilliant teacher, a great

communicated. The Meyer you really loved him didn't you? Amazing says Demire.

Jen did you learn from it?

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