Tom Odell Talks Another Love, Independence, “Ugly,” Billie Eilish, and New Album ‘A Wonderful Life’

Zach Sang Show

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4.7 • 658 Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Incredibly — given the breadth and heft of his career — this is the first time Tom Odell has hopped on our couch. The English songwriter’s been soul-searching and plundering his own emotional depths to sett to piano-driven pop since 2013, signing to Lily Allen’s short-lived Sony imprint (more on that in the chat), and releasing instant smash ‘Another Love.’ It’s a song that’s taken on a whole new meaning and had a whole new lease of life thanks to TikTok, finding uplifting resonance for many amidst the ongoing Ukranian-Russian war.

Now an independent artist — let’s just say major label life was rough despite his success — Odell is back with his new, seventh album, A Wonderful Life. And he’s playing arenas! We find out about its creation, existential dread brought on by observances of this modern age, not to mention introspection and the dark before the light.

He also discusses his unique relationship with Billie Eilish (who he just finished touring with), and FINNEAS, the resurgence of ‘Another Love,’ and the power of audience and authenticity. We go deep into self-analysis, body-image and perception on new song ‘Ugly,’ anxiety, and the tough times he had in 2021, struggling to sell shows before leaving Sony and phoenix rising-style absolutely smashing it (to borrow British parlance). There was also quite a harrowing encounter with a rattlesnake in Utah, plus so much more.

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0:00.0	Hi, Beautiful Human. I'm Zach. That's Dan. And today we welcome to the studio for the first time ever in Ivor Novello and Brit Award-winning billion streaming British artists who's piano-driven music genuinely tugs at the heartstrings. He's back with a seven studio album, A Wonderful Life. Say hello.
0:21.6	This is Ham Hodel, everybody.
0:21.9	Hey.
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0:22.9	Hey. Hey.
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0:24.6	Hey.
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0:26.7	Hey.
0:27.7	So you're from the, you're from the East Coast, right?
0:29.3	Yeah, I'm from New Jersey.
0:30.3	Yeah.
0:31.6	Yeah.
0:31.6	What finds you in on the West Coast?
0:34.6	Honestly, life. This show right here? Yeah. Like, work. I mean, we've been here for how many years, Dan? Over 10 now, going on 11. What could the West Coast learn from the East Coast, and what could the East Coast learn from the West Coast? Good question. And I genuinely think East Coast is built on camaraderie. Yeah. And West Coast is kind of built on Loki competition. Yeah. and people help each other on the East Coast and I don't think it happens much here on the West Coast
0:58.1	and I don't think it happens much here on the West Coast. And I could be wrong. They pretend to help you here. Yeah. You mean to say everyone's out for themselves in Los Angeles? I think if somebody was to fall on the sidewalk here, people would just step over you around you, and I think in New York they'd stop to help. You know, I'm going to contest that because I went for a hike in Runyon Canyon this morning
1:13.7	and someone did fall down and lots of people did stop.
1:17.4	Okay, that's nice. That's nice. Okay, so a literal fall.
1:20.8	There was a literal. Actually, I think she passed out and they had to get an ambulance
1:26.0	up and it was all quite distressing.
1:29.3	By the way, we have an album to talk about.
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