Tom Nichols: This Is What They Want
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4.6 • 11.6K Ratings
🗓️ 7 November 2024
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
Tom Nichols joins Tim Miller.
show notes
Tom's most recent Atlantic Daily newsletter
Derek Thompson's piece mentioned by Tim (gifted)
Nick Catoggio's piece
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Bullock podcast. |
| 0:09.9 | I'm your host Tim Miller. |
| 0:11.5 | We're bringing in friends and fam this week. |
| 0:13.6 | That's the only way to deal with it. |
| 0:14.8 | So I've got Tom Nichols, Professor Emeritus at the Naval War College. |
| 0:17.9 | He's staff writer at the Atlantic and author of the Atlantic Daily |
| 0:21.5 | newsletter, Tom, what should we do? What do you want to say? What happens? I mean, you know, |
| 0:30.2 | what we should do is be on a beach somewhere right now and, you know, just with a couple of mitis, |
| 0:35.4 | but, you know, what do we do? |
| 0:38.5 | You get up in the morning and you square your shoulders and take a deep breath and say, |
| 0:42.5 | okay, four more years of this crazy shit. |
| 0:45.2 | And I think as long as he doesn't bumble us into World War III, you know, we just kind of get |
| 0:52.5 | up and do the work every day and try to hold this |
| 0:56.2 | administration to account the way we would and criticize and discuss and write about them the |
| 1:01.1 | way we would. Look, Tim, the saddest part, American people made their decision and 51% |
| 1:07.3 | of the American people made their decision. This is what they want. |
| 1:11.5 | Okay. |
| 1:18.3 | So, you know, we're all strapped into the same rocket and we're just going to have to deal with it. |
| 1:20.6 | That's, you know, it's all we can do. |
| 1:24.6 | Yeah, they're going to get it good and hard, as many people have sent me at the H.L. They just don't believe that that stove is hot and they've decided to |
| 1:28.7 | touch it three or four or five or ten more times. Well, I want to talk in a little bit more detail |
| 1:34.0 | about what actually the next steps look like practically, but I want to go back first. |
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