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The Bulwark Podcast

Tom Nichols: Claudine Gay Had to Go

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 5 January 2024

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Harvard was justified in protecting its academic standards and the institution itself. But people are taking the DEI bait over Gay, instead of seeing that Project Trump is about discrediting institutions that stand for integrity and standards. Tom Nichols joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.

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0:00.0

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0:18.0

DFS, what's your thing? You're going to see. Welcome to the Bull Work Podcast. I'm Charlie Sech. It is January 5th,

0:51.0

2024. We are five days into into January one day short of the third anniversary of

0:56.4

the insurrection boy that that is a weird thing isn't it we're joined of course by

1:00.2

Tom Nichols professor Tom Nichols from the Atlantic.

1:03.4

So I mean three years ago, you remember where you were,

1:05.9

which you were thinking was gonna happen three years ago?

1:08.7

Yeah, I remember this kind of feeling of unreality that this could not be my country. These are not my

1:16.5

fellow citizens doing this. No I remember I was actually looking at my newsletter from January 5th

1:22.3

and it was like people stuff's coming

1:24.1

this is going to be really really bad I mean there every single light is blinking here and

1:28.3

yet even with all the warnings even with all of the hey we should be really

1:31.9

alarmed about this the reality was so much worse and of course here we are three years later so hey listen I want to talk about a lot of things you know that they're not involving Trump necessarily if that's okay with you

1:43.5

Tom how is that possible we will get to it but I do want to talk about some others

1:48.4

that can we just start off by just going through some headlines that kind of are sticking

1:51.8

with me this morning.

1:52.7

I mean, it's Friday.

1:53.7

It's the day for it.

1:55.1

And it's the weekend.

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