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Welcome to a book with legs podcast. I'm Cole Smead, CEO and portfolio manager here at Smead Capital Management. At our firm, we are readers, and we believe in the power of books to help shape

informed investors. In this podcast, we speak to great authors about their writings. The late

great Charlie Munger prescribed using multiple mental models and analysis.

We analyze their work through the lens of business, markets, and people.

In this episode, we will have a conversation that touches philosophy, mathematics.

We will understand the history of this, and we will, in my

opinion, ask, what is divine? Joining us for this episode is author Tom Griffiths to discuss

his newly published book, The Laws of Thought, The Quest for a Mathematical Theory of the

Mind. For our listeners, I'll give you a little background on Tom.

He's the Henry R. Luce of, Henry R. Luce Professor of Information, Technology, Consciousness

and Culture in the Department of Psychology and Computer Science at Princeton University,

where he directs the Computational Cognitive Science Lab and the New Princeton Laboratory

for Artificial Intelligence.

He has published other books, including Algorithms to Live By, which he co-authored.

Tom earned his BA from the University of Western Australia.

He received a master's and a PhD from Stanford University.

Tom, thanks for joining me today.

Thanks. It's great to be here.

Yeah. So I always ask authors this. You know, you do a lot of work in this, but this is like a short, it's a short history. You're giving people kind of like, we're going to take you from the beginning of these thoughts to where we are today and how we really came to this date in, you know, in many respects what we call AI today, what inspired you to go tell this story?

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