An honour and a privilege to be joined in studio by Todd Greenberg, Cricket Australia's CEO,

for a clearly what will be a wide-ranging state of the nation, state of the planet,

conversation about the great game of cricket, and hopefully life.

Now, Todd, it's not your first foray on the show,

but it's your first foray on the show as like the club president of cricket in Australia.

So a warm welcome to you.

Let's start at the natural place, grade cricket and Greg Matthews.

Where else would you want to start?

It's like start from the foundation.

So to what extent, you know, like has playing Sydney test cricket in the 80s and 90s,

first grade opening bat against guys like Greg Matthews,

been formative in your career in some of the most combative,

administrative contexts like the NRL and also cricket right now

in the current global tumult.

I would answer that by saying the formation of the current global to malt.

I would answer that by saying the formation of the resilience gene.

That's the best way to describe it.

I was actually on the way here thinking what will be the first question because I loved your interview with Phil War when you got him on his first question.

So I was thinking, what have they got in store for me today?

I reckon you've softballed me early. That's good. Where is Rocky Elson? Do we know? Do we know? Let me text Phil. Let me ask you. It was one of the great openers to a podcast. Todd, the great maxim, of course, is that if you are a better cricketer than someone you're a better person than them

you are literally top of the tree you are the CEO of cricket in this country but you never

played a test so how seriously can we take your answers yeah well in the great cricket

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