Welcome to Wheels Off, a show about the messy reality of the creative life.

I'm Rhett Miller. Todd Barry is a comedy god, just objectively speaking.

He's one of the greatest, funniest stand-up comedians that's ever done the stand-up comedy thing. He's incredible.

And I'm so lucky to have him as a guest on Wheels Off. I can't list all of his stuff.

I mean, obviously, I remember probably the first time I became aware of him might have been Dr. Katz years ago.

I'm lucky enough to have gotten to be friends with him some over the years in New York.

He and I have done some shows together and got to hang out a little bit.

And he's just so gifted and quick and subversively funny.

I really loved, once again, I can't list the millions of things that he's done on screen and in the comedy world.

But he did play a character in Flight of the Concords.

The third Concord was the name of the episode.

He was a character named Todd, weirdly.

And he was a bongo playing a megalomaniac.

And I highly recommend you go watch the episode,

or at least some YouTube clip of it.

But Todd's great, if you've never heard of him, what rock have you been living under?

But also, no big deal.

Now you've got somebody you can go down a rabbit hole watching his stand-up and his acting and his appearances.

You're going to love him.

One thing I really love about this episode is that Todd is very real.

Like, you know, he tells me at one point during this conversation that he doesn't often get kind of like serious in in interviews you know he doesn't

get like personal or whatever but you know the nature of wheels off is such that it kind of demands

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