If the racist white person, I don't mean the person who is examining his consciousness and so on,

doesn't understand that he or she is also a race.

It's also constructed.

It's also made.

And it also has some kind of serviceability.

But when you take it away, I take your race away.

And there you are, all strung out.

And all you got is your little self.

And what is that?

What are you without racism? Are you any good? Are you still strong? You still smart. You still like yourself.

If you can only be tall because somebody is on their knees, then you have a serious problem.

And my feeling is, white people have a very, very serious problem.

And they should start thinking about what they can do about it.

Take me out of it.

Yeah, I think we're finally at to take me out of it stage collectively.

And it feels kind of good.

I love talking about this woman.

She is inspiring in ways that beyond the writing, just the story of her life and how she moves in the world, moved in the world, moves in the world.

She's still with us in so many ways.

I'm talking about Tony Morrison, and the book is Tony at Random, the iconic writer's legendary editorship.

Let me welcome Professor of African American Literature and the Dean of the Graduate School

at Howard University, the one and only Dana A. Williams.

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