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line of products. Right now we are going through a little series of some of my

favorite podcasts ever, some of the ones that were the most meaningful and also had something kind of common with it.

And that is basically hard work pays off.

How that hard work pays off has manifested for all of these different people in different ways.

I met Toby Hansen when he was mate for a gentleman that was fishing in Key West.

Toby came down and as it would go sometimes the owner of the boat would, you know, they're busy guys.

That's how they have all these boats and things and a lot of times time is the most valuable

commodity and sometimes that time evaporate so a trip planned to Key West to

come down and fish with me and Simon Becker might turn into guys I

something came up I can't make it the captain of the boat went out with Simon

Toby went out with me and Toby and I got along really well, really fast and have stayed in touch ever since.

We decided to do a podcast together. We talked about his upbringing in the fishing world,

how he found himself with these different opportunities and none of them came easy.

All of them required hard work and some of Toby's advice to first-time guides just starting out.

People who could take this advice and use it in any walk of life.

Any walk of life.

If you are changing careers, if you are getting into something that you have no experience, no knowledge, no money, no

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