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The Virtual Couch

To Be Heard Is To Be Healed - Connecting the 4 Pillars of Communication

The Virtual Couch

Tony Overbay LMFT

Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.9668 Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2021

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Tony describes in detail how his "4 Pillars of a Connected Conversation" works, including how to apply the 4 Pillars in any conversation where you feel stuck, unheard, unseen, or unloved. The 4 Pillars are: 1) Assuming good intentions, 2) Don't send the message of "you're wrong" or "I don't believe you," EVEN IF you think the other person is wrong, or you don't believe them, 3) Ask questions BEFORE making comments, and 4) Stay present, lean in, do all that you can to stay out of "victim mode." These 4 Pillars, along with the paradigm shift that the goal of a conversation is to be heard, not to resolve, will lead to more connected conversations. - Visit http://tonyoverbay.com/magnetic to learn more about Tony's Magnetic Marriage program, or visit http://tonyoverbay.com to take Tony's free parenting course, or to learn more about his best-selling book; or only recovery program "The Path Back." And please subscribe to "Waking Up to Narcissism," Tony's brand new podcast, which is part of The Virtual Couch podcast network.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody, welcome to this episode of the virtual couch, and that is my very smooth way of saying, I forgot what number episode this is, but I think we're somewhere between 285 and 290, but I am glad you're here. I'm your host, Tony Overbay. I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist, a certified mindful, have a coach, and a writer, and a speaker, and a husband and a father of four, and all those things that I've gotten away from saying at the beginning of every episode because I just want to get to the content.

0:24.2

I can't lie. and a speaker and a husband and a father for and all those things that I've gotten away from saying at the beginning of every episode because I just want to get to the content.

0:24.2

I can't lie, even to the point where this will seem like a setup, but I have completely spaced talking about my sponsor, BetterHelp for well over a month now.

0:32.1

So if you are looking for help online therapy, then go to BetterHelp.com slash virtual couch and you'll get 10%

0:38.2

off your first month's services. BetterHelp.com has an incredible assessment feature.

0:43.6

You can be up and running with somebody within 24 to 48 hours and do it through email or online

0:48.6

or all those wonderful things. So try betterhelp.com slash virtual couch and there. I've meant to do that

0:53.8

for so many times. But let's get to the material. I have so many things that I just think about when I'm just out and about. And over the weekend, I went on a quick road trip with my wife. We drove back to Utah just for a couple of days. We love doing a road trip together. We love listening to audio books and podcasts and

1:11.1

solving all the world's problem. My wife would kill me if I ever told the content of this,

1:14.9

but we have this running joke that one of these days I need to do a podcast, and it is Tony and

1:19.6

Wendy just show their ignorance about a variety of things. And if you just put the recorder on

1:26.1

us while we're talking about a lot of things,

1:28.6

some politics, pop culture, news, that sort of thing, we really realize at times that we are so

1:34.1

compatible because we don't know as much as we think that we know. But I digress. So we're

1:39.0

having this amazing time, but I had an opportunity to interact with quite a few people over the

1:43.1

last 48 hours. And when you're out and about and people know you're a therapist, you get asked a lot of questions, which I love. I absolutely love, which is why this is what I do for a living. When I was in the computer industry and somebody would ask me about hooking up their printer or something about a new computer, I would just feel, I would just say, I don't know,

2:01.1

probably the people at Best Buy or something like that can help out. But when it comes to therapy,

2:04.9

I'm really passionate about things. And so I work with a lot of couples. I have my magnetic marriage

2:10.7

course, which has been delayed, but the next round is coming soon. So contact me if you want to find

2:15.9

out more about that. But I work with

2:17.7

so many couples that then it is difficult not to watch couples interact and not want to say, hey,

2:23.0

time out. Can I express what I think that he might be feeling? Or I think what she's trying to say is,

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