To ‘B’ or not to ‘B’? with Mellody Hobson & Victoria Jackson

Archetypes

Archewell Audio

Society & Culture, History

4.2 • 967 Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2022

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

In this dynamic episode, Meghan explores the origin and plague of “the B word” and its cousin “difficult” and how these terms are often wrongly applied to a strong minded woman, especially in business. In deep and meaningful conversations with trailblazers Mellody Hobson and Victoria Jackson, Meghan investigates the language used to gaslight women as they grow their careers as entrepreneurs and on the corporate ladder. Creator and writer, Robin Thede, also joins Meghan, along with author Allison Yarrow, and zoologist and author Lucy Cooke. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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0:00.0	Lemonnara.
0:02.0	At this point in the series, I think we've established that I spent a lot of time in front of the TV growing up.
0:14.6	I loved movies and shows.
0:16.2	I had my favorite programs and as we continue to unearth with archetypes, many of them can
0:21.5	be influenced by pop culture and by the media.
0:25.3	Growing up in the 80s and 90s, my generation, we were raised with television in the same way
0:30.9	that this generation is raised with social media.
0:34.0	But we didn't have that then. There was no Instagram or Tik-Toc.
0:38.0	You couldn't even record shows unless you had a blank VHS tape that you could race to queue up at the exact time so you'd hope not to miss your favorite show.
0:47.0	For Gen Z listeners, you're going to have to Google or I guess Tik-Toc what I'm even talking about.
0:52.0	But for those of you who remember these days... I guess Tik-Tock what I'm even talking about.
0:52.8	But for those of you who remember these days,
0:56.1	you'll also remember the shows that you were always ready for.
1:01.0	Now for me, this was Jeopardy.
1:04.0	This is Jeopardy.
1:07.0	Here are today's contestants.
1:09.0	Jeopardy was my favorite show growing up
1:12.0	and I would eat my dinner on a TV tray in front of the
1:14.4	screen watching each category include with baited breath an intense focus trying to absorb
1:19.4	whatever facts they were firing off in the form of a question.
1:23.0	My obsession with this show was so deep.
1:27.0	You guys, when Alex Treback passed away,
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