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Archetypes

Good Wife/Bad Wife, Good Mom/Bad Mom with Sophie Grégoire Trudeau, Pamela Adlon and Sam Jay

Archetypes

Archewell Audio

History, Society & Culture

4.2967 Ratings

🗓️ 1 November 2022

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

In this raw and enlightening episode, Meghan unveils the roles of "Good Wife/Bad Wife, Good Mom/Bad Mom" and explores the judgments behind them. In these candid and highly entertaining chats with First Lady of Canada, Sophie Grégoire Trudeau, as well as Pamela Adlon, and Sam Jay, Meghan delves into the pressures of what it means to be a partner and a parent in this modern age.

This episode also features authors Dr. Shefali Tsabary and Angela Garbes.

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0:00.0

Lemonnotta.

0:07.0

This past summer, a friend of mine was in town with her kids for a few days.

0:12.0

Now this, to me me was very exciting because I hadn't seen her for a while and the idea of getting our kids together

0:19.6

this was a real treat. We swam, we drank wine, we splashed in the water, then threw some pool floats in.

0:27.0

By the way, the inflatable pizza slice proved to be a big hit.

0:31.0

Which I found online, and I kid you not, the one without pepperoni was a few

0:36.1

dollars less than the one with pepperoni. And yes, I'm still talking about the inflatable

0:39.9

pizza float for the pool. We all got a good laugh out of that. But all that aside, this wasn't

0:46.6

our day of being the wives and moms all perfectly quaffed with updoes and pearls and demure smiles.

0:52.3

This was the other version of us. with updues and pearls and demure smiles.

0:53.4

This was the other version of us, both with wild curly hair and swimsuits and loose linen and

0:59.2

huge belly laughs.

1:01.3

Big cuddles with our little ones, and quiet whispers of girl talk on the

1:05.2

terrace giddy, like absolute school girls. We were just having so much fun? You wondering who I'm talking about? I'll let her introduce herself.

1:20.0

For homies, it's Sophie G. in the house, but nobody knows this.

1:24.0

Okay.

1:26.0

If you didn't guess it yet, perhaps this introduction is more of what you're familiar with.

1:32.0

Sophie Reguois is my legal name and then Sophie Reguire Trudeau because of the association

1:36.4

and I get called Madame because of protocol very often I'm sure you know about

1:40.5

you know how that feels and it just my ears screech every time I'm like oh I'm not a madame.

1:47.2

That's Sophie Gregoa Trudeau. She's an activist humanitarian mother and also wife to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

1:56.4

Sophie has become a dear friend and someone who I think is so emblematic of strength

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