And the Oh, Podcast, the final frontier.

These are the conversations of the friendship, Matt Myra and Andrew Secunda.

Their continuing mission.

To seek out old adventures with contrived civilizations.

To boldly watch episodes that one of them has watched before.

Hey everyone, welcome to Star Trek The Next Conversation, the world's longest running Star Trek

podcast. Hosted by Matt Mandy. I'm Matt. I'm Andy. We are season five chucking along. We're in the dip, the season five dip, as I call it,

for it skyrockets. Is it renowned? It is not renowned. Might be a phenomenon only I have

assessed but let me tell you rewatching. It's true. The episode is... Serious.

Imaginary.

I mean, obviously we're of two minds because to me I appreciate the last episode, so it's an interesting

Oh right interesting conflict where it's not a dip to me this is the peak

they're pretty bad with Alexander Roshenko's appearance, I was just like,

now it's complete.

We're just missing a Troy's mom.

So I guess I should answer the question everybody.

Matt, would you have them watch this episode?

If you really hate yourself. It's funny for that fanfare to come after that statement.

Yeah, I think trumpets shouldn't just be for grandiose great things.

I think Trumpets should be blown at all, on all occasions.

So, yeah, this episode is kind of

The I mean there are parts of it that are that are almost promising that like you know and then it just it just dives so far into

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